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Barack Obama's friend Frank

Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:11 PM EDT
politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father
By Cletus Wilbury
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Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words.
In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is:
This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.

pg76 - (Frank is introduced)
"Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand..."
(like whenever Gramps took him to a bar in the red light district. "Don't tell your grandmother")

pg88 - A black man had asked his grandmother for money "He was very aggressive, Barry. Very aggressive. I gave him a dollar and he kept asking. If the bus had not come, I think he might have hit me over the head."
Barry wonders why Gramps doesn't want to drive her to work. Gramps says "...It is a big deal. She's been bothered by men before. You know why she's so scared this time? I'll tell you why.." (because he was black) "And I just don't think it's right"
Barry - "The words were like a fist in my stomach..". Pg89 "Never had they given me reason to doubt their love...."

Barry that night drives to Waikiki, visits Frank. He told Frank the story I summarized above.
Frank says he and Stanley (Gramps) grew up about 50 miles apart. They didn't know each other.

Frank: "What I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma' right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not . So you might as well get used to it."

Barry's thoughts: "The earth shook under my feet, ready to crack at any moment. I stopped, trying to steady myself, and knew for the first time I was utterly alone."

pg 97 - "What had Frank called college? An advanced degree in compromise. I thought back to the last time I had seen the old poet....
(page long narrative with his previous conversations with Frank on the value of college)
pg 98 - "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Panther dashiki self. In some ways he was incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."

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Cletus Wilbury

Like the rest of these associations, the influence these people had seems widely overblown.

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Reply#1 - Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:11 PM EDT
Cletus Wilbury

Related, pg 100-103

Barry is trying to prove how black he is, by hanging out with the more politically active black students, the Marxist professors, etc.
Barry realizes how foolish this was.

Marcus gets down on Barry for reading Heart of Darkness.
Barry admits it's a racist viewpoint, but it is an assignment and the book teaches him things.
"See, the book's not really about Africa. Or black people. It's about the man who wrote it.."

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Reply#2 - Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
Cletus Wilbury

If one wants to find leftist influences in Obama's past, you don't have to look for some black guy.
It's his mom.

on pg 47, he's describing arguments between his mother and his Indonesian step father (Lolo). She's refusing to go to dinners with him where many 'American businessmen from Texas and Louisiana' would also be in attendance. Lolo says "but they're your people".

She screams: "They are not my people".

    Reply#3 - Sat Jun 7, 2008 5:14 AM EDT
    Cletus Wilbury

    I saw a hit peace on Fox news last night, tying Obama to Stalin via Frank. It skipped over the important point that Frank was his grandfather's card playing buddy. The only black guy Obama knew that was his grandfather's age, and someone who knew his grandfather well, it seems natural Obama would ask him about his grandfather's racism charge against his grandmother.
    That piece also took other comments from the book out of context. One was where they quote Frank's criticism of higher learning (similar to the comment I quoted above from Pg 97). Obama hardly took that advice seriously, the larger context was to demonstrate Frank as an example of counter productive attitudes in the black community.

      Reply#4 - Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:43 AM EDT
      Yakking York

      Barry's awareness of his white grandmother's fear of black men is a very good point.  WHen any white women, especially those who had to ride public transit, think of  black men at a bus stop at night, most have the reaction of fear.  I am now 49, grew up in San Francisco, and almost all the nonblack women I know will not look at a black man, turn their heads if he calls, insults, or whistles.  They have learned to "see no evil" and hustle onward.  One of the biggest favors that Obama can do for this nation is apologize for his black brothers' anger and malice towards white women in public.  When the wound is acknowledged and spread out in public to be discussed, then the healing can begin.  Until then, hatred and fear in white and Asian women's hearts will continue to fester and grow.  Obama, admit our pain!  Apologize for the black behavior on the streets of the USA!!!

        Reply#5 - Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:53 PM EST
        Cletus Wilbury

        Maybe he should take the stereotype a bit further and apologize for all men.

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